New Battery Problems?

[Hanniep]

Purchased a new battery, old one left me stranded in Connecticut! Went to PEP Boys (Yeah I know) Never do that again,.....only place open a time with Bosch Battery... Ok I had battery installed, now my ML has loss of power and hesitation during hard acceleration and won't upshift without a couple of good stomps on the throttle, any ideas, feels like transmission is out of sync, is this possible? I know I had to re-enter security code for MCS. :? going to Mechanic tomorrow.

[55fanatic]

what year is your ML? After a certain year the ML has a tranny that learns driving habits... it might just be that it has yet forgotten it. Also Pep Boys isnt a bad place to go for a battery, should of bought an Optima Dry Cell Battery

[Hanniep]

what year is your ML? After a certain year the ML has a tranny that learns driving habits... it might just be that it has yet forgotten it. Also Pep Boys isnt a bad place to go for a battery, should of bought an Optima Dry Cell Battery


Optima does not make a battery for ML55's I was told, the truck was running smooth until new battery was installed.

[Hanniep]

what year is your ML? After a certain year the ML has a tranny that learns driving habits... it might just be that it has yet forgotten it. Also Pep Boys isnt a bad place to go for a battery, should of bought an Optima Dry Cell Battery


The loss of power is what makes me concerned, the hesitataion etc...that was not there before the battery died. Oh yeah mine is 2001

[scruffyone]

Maybe the memory forgot it was an ML.

[Hanniep]

Maybe the memory forgot it was an ML.



It fogot how to go fast and to me that is a bad thing...lol

[55fanatic]

what year is your ML? After a certain year the ML has a tranny that learns driving habits... it might just be that it has yet forgotten it. Also Pep Boys isnt a bad place to go for a battery, should of bought an Optima Dry Cell Battery


Optima does not make a battery for ML55's I was told, the truck was running smooth until new battery was installed.
Optima does not make a direct fit replacement for the ML but that doesnt matter, you should be able to add one!!! OR TWO for the size that diesel battery is

[Hanniep]

what year is your ML? After a certain year the ML has a tranny that learns driving habits... it might just be that it has yet forgotten it. Also Pep Boys isnt a bad place to go for a battery, should of bought an Optima Dry Cell Battery


Optima does not make a battery for ML55's I was told, the truck was running smooth until new battery was installed.
Optima does not make a direct fit replacement for the ML but that doesnt matter, you should be able to add one!!! OR TWO for the size that diesel battery is

I went to the Optima website before going to PEP Boys and I got this information. I know that they sell optima batteries and that was my first choice.

Please enter the following information about your car,
and find which OPTIMA is right for you.

MERCEDES-BENZ Pickup Trucks, Vans, Minivans or Sport Utilities
ML-Series, ML55 AMG
2002-2000 V8 5.5L
There are no matches available for this vehicle.

I also had the guy at PEP Boys look it up and he could not find a match. Hook me up with a vendor and I will go back to PEP Boys and exchange it.
Right now truck is in shop finding out what's up with the power loss and shifting issues. The Bosch battery installed now is huge!

[55fanatic]

the reason why they dont have it listed is because they technically make one FOR the MLs... They do however make batteries that can be "retrofitted" to fit... I bought one back in the day but couldnt figure out how the hell to get the stock battery out of there... well the optima sits in the supra now, iI have deepcycled a ton of times, generally the winter when Im not using her she goes dead

[Hanniep]

the reason why they dont have it listed is because they technically make one FOR the MLs... They do however make batteries that can be "retrofitted" to fit... I bought one back in the day but couldnt figure out how the hell to get the stock battery out of there... well the optima sits in the supra now, iI have deepcycled a ton of times, generally the winter when Im not using her she goes dead


Service: Checked DTC codes, reset engine control module adaptations, The transmission learning driving habits you spoke of is what the Tech. says is happining now, The Optima battery retrofit I'll look into that later....overall it is running much better and faster! I've learned two new things today...lol AMGPower! :mrgreen:

[55fanatic]

glad to be of service but looking on mbworld you still have the issues

[Hanniep]

glad to be of service but looking on mbworld you still have the issues


yeah I still have the hesitataion during launch, I understand that the transmission needs time to learn but how much time is needed?

[55fanatic]

I dunno, 2000 ML55s werent available with this system

[Hanniep]

I dunno, 2000 ML55s werent available with this system


I will wait a few weeks and see what happens. The coolant leak I had was the reservoir cap (go figure)...in the shop 6 times and it's the cap.

[F14Tomcat]

I dunno, 2000 ML55s werent available with this system


I will wait a few weeks and see what happens. The coolant leak I had was the reservoir cap (go figure)...in the shop 6 times and it's the cap.
From past experience on another car, if I find a coolant leak, the reservoir cap is the FIRST place I look. Cap had a cork gasket in it that had destroyed itself. Bought replacement cap, no more coolant leak. If it isn't the cap, only then do I look elsewhere.

[Hanniep]

I dunno, 2000 ML55s werent available with this system


I will wait a few weeks and see what happens. The coolant leak I had was the reservoir cap (go figure)...in the shop 6 times and it's the cap.
From past experience on another car, if I find a coolant leak, the reservoir cap is the FIRST place I look. Cap had a cork gasket in it that had destroyed itself. Bought replacement cap, no more coolant leak. If it isn't the cap, only then do I look elsewhere.

Hey F14TC,

Yeah I went the other route and replaced water pump, hoses and finally the cap. Dealer took me for a ride that is why I switched..to another.

[F14Tomcat]

Our previous two cars had plastic radiators. Each ended up with the connection where the bottom-most hose attaches getting cracks, and coolant would slowly leak out. The solution for both was a new radiator - don't think so (on 12 and 10 year old cars), so I just monitored the coolant level and added when I needed to (in warm weather, about once a month, in cold weather, once every three months). Of course with the AMGs, I won't have such a "so what" attitude :)

[Hanniep]

Our previous two cars had plastic radiators. Each ended up with the connection where the bottom-most hose attaches getting cracks, and coolant would slowly leak out. The solution for both was a new radiator - don't think so (on 12 and 10 year old cars), so I just monitored the coolant level and added when I needed to (in warm weather, about once a month, in cold weather, once every three months). Of course with the AMGs, I won't have such a "so what" attitude :)


With the cost of a motor for these things I kept a very close eye on collant level, even carried around an extra gallon just in case. I'm glad that it's all taken cared of now. If I can get it to respond properly when I accelerate then I will be happy!

[55fanatic]

Im not sure but there are a few ML owners that used this product... It was an engine additive... I think its called Kompressor, I dont think its all that cheap though

[Hanniep]

Im not sure but there are a few ML owners that used this product... It was an engine additive... I think its called Kompressor, I dont think its all that cheap though


Meaning supercharging Kompressor, funny! yeah...$15,000...lol on my wish list, Thanks I'll keep that in mind!!

[55fanatic]

nop not 15k, I checked with the folks at kleeman... 8k for the low boost version, and its 11k for the highboost version. Lots of times they will install these free if you buy the product, I see no other better reason to take a road trip!!!

[Militant-Grunt]

nop not 15k, I checked with the folks at kleeman... 8k for the low boost version, and its 11k for the highboost version. Lots of times they will install these free if you buy the product, I see no other better reason to take a road trip!!!


Have the 11k I need?

[55fanatic]

nop not 15k, I checked with the folks at kleeman... 8k for the low boost version, and its 11k for the highboost version. Lots of times they will install these free if you buy the product, I see no other better reason to take a road trip!!!


Have the 11k I need?

greedy greedy boy, do what I had to do for it, WORK!!! LOL!!! Man kids these days just looking for hand outs you know, what is this world coming to!!! Sheesh, You shoulda asked for the 8k... HAHAHA SUCKER!!! HMM I could get rid of the supra and get the low boost set up :shock:

[Hanniep]

what will 8-11k get me 500hp? if not I'm waiting for the ml63, I want power!!!! :lol:

[55fanatic]

what will 8-11k get me 500hp? if not I'm waiting for the ml63, I want power!!!! :lol:


8k will get you 484, 11k will get you 524, so in essence an ML55K would BEAT an ML63 and you could have it right away!!! Also I believe Renntech's kit is good for 544hp

[Hanniep]

what will 8-11k get me 500hp? if not I'm waiting for the ml63, I want power!!!! :lol:


8k will get you 484, 11k will get you 524, so in essence an ML55K would BEAT an ML63 and you could have it right away!!! Also I believe Renntech's kit is good for 544hp

I want minimum 600, and a handling package to match... 8) Pete do you have an IPOD setup in you ml?

[scruffyone]

what will 8-11k get me 500hp? if not I'm waiting for the ml63, I want power!!!! :lol:


8k will get you 484, 11k will get you 524, so in essence an ML55K would BEAT an ML63 and you could have it right away!!! Also I believe Renntech's kit is good for 544hp

I want minimum 600, and a handling package to match... 8) Pete do you have an IPOD setup in you ml?
The ability to light all four tires would be a plus.

[Hanniep]

what will 8-11k get me 500hp? if not I'm waiting for the ml63, I want power!!!! :lol:


8k will get you 484, 11k will get you 524, so in essence an ML55K would BEAT an ML63 and you could have it right away!!! Also I believe Renntech's kit is good for 544hp

I want minimum 600, and a handling package to match... 8) Pete do you have an IPOD setup in you ml?
The ability to light all four tires would be a plus.

My cousin has an 3000GT VR4 modded out to @700hp smokes all four tires when he drops the clutch! Incredible! yeah I would love that!

[55fanatic]

what will 8-11k get me 500hp? if not I'm waiting for the ml63, I want power!!!! :lol:


8k will get you 484, 11k will get you 524, so in essence an ML55K would BEAT an ML63 and you could have it right away!!! Also I believe Renntech's kit is good for 544hp

I want minimum 600, and a handling package to match... 8) Pete do you have an IPOD setup in you ml?

No I have about 8 or 9k of other stereo equipment, but no Ipod... At first I was severely against Ipods, refuse to buy one. But now I need a small MP3 player and it looks like the Nano or shuffle would work, DAMNIT!!!

[55fanatic]

what will 8-11k get me 500hp? if not I'm waiting for the ml63, I want power!!!! :lol:


8k will get you 484, 11k will get you 524, so in essence an ML55K would BEAT an ML63 and you could have it right away!!! Also I believe Renntech's kit is good for 544hp

I want minimum 600, and a handling package to match... 8) Pete do you have an IPOD setup in you ml?
The ability to light all four tires would be a plus.

My cousin has an 3000GT VR4 modded out to @700hp smokes all four tires when he drops the clutch! Incredible! yeah I would love that!

we better get workin on your 7mgte then!!! RIGHT AWAY

[Hanniep]

[quote="Hanniep":c5ad0]what will 8-11k get me 500hp? if not I'm waiting for the ml63, I want power!!!! :lol:


8k will get you 484, 11k will get you 524, so in essence an ML55K would BEAT an ML63 and you could have it right away!!! Also I believe Renntech's kit is good for 544hp

I want minimum 600, and a handling package to match... 8) Pete do you have an IPOD setup in you ml?
The ability to light all four tires would be a plus.

My cousin has an 3000GT VR4 modded out to @700hp smokes all four tires when he drops the clutch! Incredible! yeah I would love that!

we better get workin on your 7mgte then!!! RIGHT AWAY[/quote:c5ad0]



New motor in a week or two and then I have to get some more power out of that thing! Exhaust, maybe twin turbos I'm going to make it my sleeper project for this summer! 8)

[55fanatic]

well you could always have my plans... you should be able to pull on C5 Z06 from a roll pretty easily... Are you doing the stock engine or what? Ill tell you exactly what to do, hehe, should be a BEAST

[Hanniep]

well you could always have my plans... you should be able to pull on C5 Z06 from a roll pretty easily... Are you doing the stock engine or what? Ill tell you exactly what to do, hehe, should be a BEAST


Yeah stock with a new head gasket, what plans do you have? I'm making a real killer :twisted: since I have to rebuild just about everything!! I'll spend a little cheese and I want to paint it jet black no badges and tints! Dual exhaust also.

[55fanatic]

well you could always have my plans... you should be able to pull on C5 Z06 from a roll pretty easily... Are you doing the stock engine or what? Ill tell you exactly what to do, hehe, should be a BEAST


Yeah stock with a new head gasket, what plans do you have? I'm making a real killer :twisted: since I have to rebuild just about everything!! I'll spend a little cheese and I want to paint it jet black no badges and tints! Dual exhaust also.

PM me your email address and Ill shoot you an email of what to do and what not to do when putting in an engine and building up a supra. Stock your ML55 is faster and more capable... but with some work(not much) you can have a pretty capable weekend warrior capable of low 13s in the quarter(or better)

[jp55amg]

if you haven't fixed your power problem ,its the tranny.
i have an 01 ml55 the batt died and so did my power after new MB batt installed
problem was the shift plates in the tranny 1000 bucks to fix
mine was undert warrantee so no exspense

apparently if your batt dies don't jump and drive or you do damage!

jp

[Hanniep]

if you haven't fixed your power problem ,its the tranny.
i have an 01 ml55 the batt died and so did my power after new MB batt installed
problem was the shift plates in the tranny 1000 bucks to fix
mine was undert warrantee so no exspense

apparently if your batt dies don't jump and drive or you do damage!

jp


Shift plates what exactly happened? Because of the jump start it screwed up the plates in the transmission. How do you start truck with a dead battery, buy a new one and replace before starting? you are still getting the same results right? It was not a jump from another car it was from one of those portable battery pacs. I'll look into that. Also what are your upshift rpms mine if I launch hard and hold throttle down second or third gear kicks up @ 6000rpm! Thanks!

[jp55amg]

i did the same thing i jumped it with a jump box then drove maybe 20 miles to get to MB it seemed weak the whole way there i figured it was low voltage ,after the new batt was installed and i drove it home it was still weak i figured maybee it had to re learn a week later it was the same so i took it to the dealer ,
shift plates was how he explained it to me ,which is probrably an electrically operated valve body ,
well heres what was replaced
140-270-08-61 electrics kit 136.80$
140-271-00-80 trans gasket 10.26
140-991-00-55 lock pin 2.00
203-540-00-53 spacer 10.26
140-271-00-60 seal 2.00
8909107 cleaner 6.99

jp

[Hanniep]

i did the same thing i jumped it with a jump box then drove maybe 20 miles to get to MB it seemed weak the whole way there i figured it was low voltage ,after the new batt was installed and i drove it home it was still weak i figured maybee it had to re learn a week later it was the same so i took it to the dealer ,
shift plates was how he explained it to me ,which is probrably an electrically operated valve body ,
well heres what was replaced
140-270-08-61 electrics kit 136.80$
140-271-00-80 trans gasket 10.26
140-991-00-55 lock pin 2.00
203-540-00-53 spacer 10.26
140-271-00-60 seal 2.00
8909107 cleaner 6.99
jp


Thanks I will take this to my mech. and see what's up $1000 is a lot of money but I guess it was mostly labor..so in the future what did he recomend for a dead battery?

[Hanniep]

well you could always have my plans... you should be able to pull on C5 Z06 from a roll pretty easily... Are you doing the stock engine or what? Ill tell you exactly what to do, hehe, should be a BEAST


Yeah stock with a new head gasket, what plans do you have? I'm making a real killer :twisted: since I have to rebuild just about everything!! I'll spend a little cheese and I want to paint it jet black no badges and tints! Dual exhaust also.

PM me your email address and Ill shoot you an email of what to do and what not to do when putting in an engine and building up a supra. Stock your ML55 is faster and more capable... but with some work(not much) you can have a pretty capable weekend warrior capable of low 13s in the quarter(or better)

Pete,

I'm starting this weekend on the supra rebuild! going over to see mech today! thanks!